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  Was it the doctrine or the control that woke you up?

  by Evidently Apostate in

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  even though i knew some of the doctrines were so convoluted they couldnt be genuine, every prophecy mentioned in the bible was simplistic and direct i still felt it was the best place to raise a family.

  i felt like i could ignore the hypocrisy, manipulative and fake personalities and still have true friends and unbreakable family bonds.

  even though my concience would bother me i would always try to forgive.

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  Was it the doctrine or the control that woke you up?

  by Evidently Apostate in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  even though i knew some of the doctrines were so convoluted they couldnt be genuine, every prophecy mentioned in the bible was simplistic and direct i still felt it was the best place to raise a family.

  i felt like i could ignore the hypocrisy, manipulative and fake personalities and still have true friends and unbreakable family bonds.

  even though my concience would bother me i would always try to forgive.

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  even though i knew some of the doctrines were so convoluted they couldnt be genuine, every prophecy mentioned in the bible was simplistic and direct i still felt it was the best place to raise a family. i felt like i could ignore the hypocrisy, manipulative and fake personalities and still have true friends and unbreakable family bonds. even though my concience would bother me i would always try to forgive. I witnessed my niece endure vicious verbal and mental attacks when she made her stand and told her parents she was going to date and did not want to be apart of the religion. when i confronted her grandfather about his unchristian behavoir and how the harsh stance of the watchtower was devisive to the family arraingement he asked me if i still believed the governing body was annointed, not one once of remorse just the loyalty question.

  Once i stopped attending meetings the shunning was almost immediate. my son stopped going also and within 2 months rumor was spread that he was on drugs and sleeping around. even my little girl was shunned by a former playmate she just walked right by us like a robot. i get the parental maunipulation but how do you explain that to your little girl. my wife now struggles and feels like an outcast when she goes to the hall i feel sad when i see her struggle , i have never hindered her worship, it is hers . i know she sees what i see but she still has the blind faith in the Org and my methods for removing her veil are non combative.

  I guess i should be greatfull for the worst i have experienced as a JW. the hA
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  My JW Daughter Engaged In "Bad Association" On Friday Night

  by snowbird in

  1. social
  2. family

  she attended a local club for her company's celebration party.. they were saluting her for doing an outstanding job.. she wore a pretty little black dress and those heels again.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/212671/1/baby-girl-gone-to-the-convention.

  i tell you, that girl is getting bolder and bolder, or is it more and more brazen?.

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  Thats a good start, someday hopefully she will be going to the Christmas party.
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  Eff my JW (former) family and freinds... Eff em all

  by AZheat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am sitting here writing this posting as a way of venting for all the frustration that i have been building up over the years of slavery to this beast called the wbts... i was a born in, and was denied all the normal things in life, i always felt left out as a kid, and even as a young adult.

  i was the only jw for most if not all of my school years, i was harrased, mocked, teased, and even pushed around, because i was taught to stand up for what i beleive in.

  th problem was, i didnt beleive it, i always felt there was something not right about the org.

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  Just what i was going to say Rebel 8. my family pissed me off for awhile, but after i began to except the fact that they are brainwashed i just stopped caring about the attacks. Now some of the family will talk to me and the others look foolish.
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  Do they announce when a pioneer steps down at your hall?

  by Evidently Apostate in

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  2. friends

  during the announcements they stop to bring up an elder and he states " hairy mary is no longer a pioneer" (not a real name) in a tone very similar to a disfellowshipping.

  i have heard it twice now but only from the hall my wife attends now.. anyone else hear of this?.

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  during the announcements they stop to bring up an elder and he states " hairy mary is no longer a pioneer" (not a real name) in a tone very similar to a disfellowshipping. i have heard it twice now but only from the hall my wife attends now.

  anyone else hear of this?
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  I am finding peace among the madness thank you very much!

  by Evidently Apostate in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a couple years ago i was watching my son progress to the point of baptism.

  it was then that my subconsious began making me see that people in the org will put the doctrine above anything especially if it allows them to remain mentally and physically lazy or saves them some money.

  the thought of my son in a robot like mentality truly awakened me and i couold see much of his motivation was from outside sources and not of his own initiative which caused me to put a stop to the process as he only had a last set of questions to go over before the plunge.. this caused quite a stir with the family including my wife who was opposed to anything that would stop her son from getting baptized, i told the elder conducting the questions that my son was not ready and he accepted that without asking questions.

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  nice video bible student, i like hearing ray franz speak he's always very articulate and calm. his book has been a light for many of us.
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  I am finding peace among the madness thank you very much!

  by Evidently Apostate in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a couple years ago i was watching my son progress to the point of baptism.

  it was then that my subconsious began making me see that people in the org will put the doctrine above anything especially if it allows them to remain mentally and physically lazy or saves them some money.

  the thought of my son in a robot like mentality truly awakened me and i couold see much of his motivation was from outside sources and not of his own initiative which caused me to put a stop to the process as he only had a last set of questions to go over before the plunge.. this caused quite a stir with the family including my wife who was opposed to anything that would stop her son from getting baptized, i told the elder conducting the questions that my son was not ready and he accepted that without asking questions.

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  a couple years ago i was watching my son progress to the point of baptism. it was then that my subconsious began making me see that people in the org will put the doctrine above anything especially if it allows them to remain mentally and physically lazy or saves them some money. the thought of my son in a robot like mentality truly awakened me and i couold see much of his motivation was from outside sources and not of his own initiative which caused me to put a stop to the process as he only had a last set of questions to go over before the plunge.

  this caused quite a stir with the family including my wife who was opposed to anything that would stop her son from getting baptized, i told the elder conducting the questions that my son was not ready and he accepted that without asking questions. while this is going on i was researching the watchtower and reading CoC and went through the whole emotional spectrum from sad to disgusted to angry and back. it took a few months to realize the deception is so deep that most people around me will look at me as the problem and not the org, so other than my wife i told noone of my discoveries.

  even though i have not been out in service for at least a year and have stopped attending meetings months ago i have began to feel a peace that is hard to explain. i feel like i have come to grips with the thought of my own mortality and it gives me a deeper appreciation for family and as i watch my extended jw family lose thier minds and attack the teenagers that are leaving one after another, one of them has been to a mental hospital because of the stress from her jw family and another who was kicked out of his mothers home for getting disfellowshipped for sex at 18 now lives with us . i cant help but feel justified for my stance . i know my children do not suffer the symptoms from conditional love, my son who now lives a pretty normal life with a group of worldly friends(omg!) my wifewho originally struggled with my change has seen a deeper apreciation for family in me and even though she remains a witness she struggles with her feelings because she sees the massive need for guilt and control in order to keep the youth going to the kingdom hall.

  So i guess time will decide my fate. the elders want to meet with me for taking in my df'ed nephew and i have told them to stop bothering me. whatever the outcome i look toward the future eager to enjoy the simple things , a beard, a few cigars, and dare i say a tatoo. but most importantly my family, omg i am worldly now haha

  thanks for reading

  EA
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  To be a good Jehovah's Witness you must......

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  to be a good jehovah's witness you must:.

  have a fear of growing old and be vain about how you look.. struggle to make decisions.. be a nobody who can have power over others.. have a mental disabliity.. have a physical disabilty who wants a cure.. be normal, but have parents who are j.w.'s..

  have had bouts of depression.. have a fear of being wrong.. the above are based upon people in the kh.

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  be taking any number of pharmacuticals for depression or add

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  Preventing a minor child from being baptized if you are their parent

  by RayPublisher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there may be no way legally for me to stop this, but it is a worry since i "woke up" to the truth about the truth a couple years ago.. now my young kids (9 and 11) are heading in that direction at the urging of their mother.

  i am still inside and trying to do a fade (for family/friend reasons) but sometimes i wonder if leaving would be smarter in the long run for them.

  any thoughts or strategies are welcome.. .

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  Preventing a minor child from being baptized if you are their parent

  by RayPublisher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there may be no way legally for me to stop this, but it is a worry since i "woke up" to the truth about the truth a couple years ago.. now my young kids (9 and 11) are heading in that direction at the urging of their mother.

  i am still inside and trying to do a fade (for family/friend reasons) but sometimes i wonder if leaving would be smarter in the long run for them.

  any thoughts or strategies are welcome.. .

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